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Kate Turner: Brake Pedals and Broken Egos: Tales from a Track Instructor
Kate Turner's journey into motorsports breaks every conventional rule in the racing handbook. At 21 years old, this track instructor from Leicestershire discovered her passion for racing not as a child karting prodigy, but as a 17-year-old who simply woke up one day and decided she wanted to be a race car driver. Her refreshing candor about this unconventional path reveals that sometimes the most extraordinary journeys begin with nothing more than pure determination.
Working daily with automotive royalty - Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens, and her dream car, the Nissan GTR - Kate guides drivers around prestigious circuits throughout the UK. She shares riveting stories from the passenger seat, including heart-stopping moments with overconfident customers and the systematic dismissal she sometimes faces as a young woman in a male-dominated field. Her response to a particularly difficult customer on International Women's Day demonstrates both her quick thinking and her commitment to commanding respect in challenging situations.
Despite competing internationally in Sweden with electric Minis, financial constraints temporarily paused Kate's racing career after 2023. Now, she's actively pursuing sponsorship for a 2026 comeback in the UK's Fun Cup endurance series while balancing plans to study neuroscience at university. Her story highlights motorsport's greatest challenge - securing financial backing - while showcasing the incredible community that makes racing unique. As Kate explains, the paddock atmosphere creates friendships that cross competitive lines and national boundaries, a camaraderie unlike any other sport. Follow Kate's journey as she manifests her return to the driver's seat, proving that in motorsport, passion and persistence can overcome even the steepest obstacles.
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Welcome to the Women's Motorsports Network podcast, the show that puts the spotlight on the incredible women who fuel the world of motorsports, from drivers to crew members, engineers to fans and everyone in between. We're here to celebrate the trailblazers, dreamers and doers shaping the sport we love. Each episode we share inspiring stories of females of all ages, from every corner of the motorsports universe past, present and future. It's a journey through the seasons of life filled with heartfelt moments, laughter and a whole lot of horsepower. So, whether you're a lifelong fan, a racer yourself or simply curious about the extraordinary women behind the wheel, settle in, relax and enjoy a fun and uplifting ride with us.
Speaker 1:This is the Women's Motorsports Network podcast, connecting and celebrating women in motorsports. One story at a time. Let's hit the track. Hello everyone, this is Melinda Russell, with the Women's Motorsports Network podcast, and my guest today is coming from a long way away, but through the technology that we have, it's like we're sitting in the same room. So I'm gonna, kate, I'm gonna let you tell them where you're from, but my guest today is Kate Turner, and Kate, I want to welcome you to the show and would you first tell us about yourself?
Speaker 2:Hi, thank you. So I'm Katie, I'm 21, I'm originally from Manchester in the UK, but now I live in Leicestershire, which is two hours south of Manchester. But I've only moved here recently, so I'm still getting to know the area a little bit okay, and do you have siblings, pets?
Speaker 1:any of those things I have?
Speaker 2:four siblings, so I have three sisters, one brother and I have one dog. He's a husky, he's eight years old and he's a pain in my bum.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they dogs, can be a pain, can't they? But we love them anyway.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, I wouldn't change them for the world yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 1:So okay, do you go to? Do you still go to school? Do you work? What do you do when you're not racing?
Speaker 2:oh, so I've not been racing since 2023, um, with budget reasons, of course it everyone knows it's really hard to find them partners. Um hopefully got some plans for 2026, though, coming up, so that would be nice. Um, so I did one year in university doing engineering, but it wasn't really for me. Um just just wasn't a fan, didn't get on with it. I'm going back in september to university to do neuroscience. So, completely different to motorsports, um, I've always liked medical stuff. Um, I wanted to be a paramedic or a doctor growing up. So, again, nothing motorsports. That came to me randomly one day For work. At the minute I'm a track instructor, so I don't know if you do them in America or anywhere else.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:But there's a few companies in the UK that do it. I'm with one in particular called Everyman Driving Experiences. So it's a fleet of 300 cars, so it ranges from ferraris, mclarens, lamborghinis, porsches, aston martins, and we coach people around tracks. So we do brands hatch donnington park, um, we, you, we did goodwood for a few years, um, but of course, hiring out a track it's very expensive, it's about 20 to 25 grand. So it's, you know, trying to find that balance. But we do other tracks as well airfields, um, so I could be with somebody, I don't know, who's been driving for either 40 years or four days. Um, we'll be going over like 100 miles an hour and I make sure they have loads of fun, but do it safely so no one gets hurt.
Speaker 1:That's very cool. I've got some questions. I'm going to ask you about that in just a little bit. First, we want to know let's go back to the first of your life how did you get involved in motorsports in the first place?
Speaker 2:So it's quite a weird one. It's not your normal route into motorsports. So when I was in college I had a couple friends that liked formula one. Um, I, my stepdad, watched it every now and then I didn't really know much about it and they kind of got me into watching racing. I was 17 18 at this point, so it was a couple years ago um, and then when I started to get into it, I really really got into it. Um, I became obsessed.
Speaker 2:Then I started getting into British touring cars, the GT Corp, literally anything that involved an engine and four wheels. Um, and then I thought I'm actually really jealous, I want to do this. I thought I don't want to do what I'm doing now because when I was in college I did forensic science. I thought I don't want to do this. I thought I want to be in a car, I want to race cars. So I passed my driving test and then my driving instructor was always telling me that I was driving a bit too fast, which is quite typical really.
Speaker 2:Um, and I found this company online that did like track days, just specifically for women. They helped you get your like race license, do a bit of coaching and they're not around anymore. They were called formula woman, but they now have moved to racing women. I don't really do anything with them anymore. Um, we lost contact um, but they really really helped me, like getting into the car onto the track scene, getting my license, and then from then I went to sweden, did a season over there in electric minis, which leads me to today. But yeah, I literally just woke up one morning I thought I'm going to drive a race car and it went from there.
Speaker 1:That's. That's not your normal story that I hear but it's a really cool one. It's a really cool one, for sure. Yeah, yeah. What do you love most about the racing part?
Speaker 2:I like the thrill of it and like the freedom of it as well. Like you can't just go whatever speed you like on a normal road I mean you can, but there's a lot of consequences to it, um, so I like the thrill. Thrill of it, the freedom of it. I like how nice everybody is on a race weekend. Like nobody had a bad word to say about anyone, whether you did really good on the weekend, whether you did very bad on the weekend, no one put you down. Everyone really helped you out. That was really nice. You don't really get that in any other sport, to be honest, so it was really nice.
Speaker 1:Not in any other sports, or daily life, yeah, or daily life, yeah, I mean, motorsports is just so different.
Speaker 2:The mindset and the family. Yeah, it's like being in a completely different world. Yeah, it's really different.
Speaker 1:It really is. So I understand the financial part of it is very difficult, but now you're looking to maybe get back into it. So how? How have you overcome? Like you know, are you finding some sponsors to help, or have you what? What are you going to do to be able to make sure you can drive a car?
Speaker 2:I will do literally anything, anything I can. So at the minute I'm currently speaking to some companies I won't name, drop them, just in case they dislike it, but a lot of it is done with the help of my uncle.
Speaker 2:So he's a lorry driver, so he knows a lot of contacts, people in like the logistics world, and you know they tend to sponsor motorsports You've got like DHL places like that Okay. So he's helping me out. He knows some people in that world and they recently came to him and asked if I'm still driving, if I still need any sponsorship, basically, and I was like yes, oh, like, yes, oh, my god, yes, yes, yes, like please get back in contact with me, that'll be great, yeah, so at the minute we're kind of doing some presentations, some deals, working out what's best for everybody to try and get this partnership which will lead me to again I don't know if you have it in the uk in the uk, in the us, um, we have a championship called the fun cup, so it's like an endurance racing one so you can get up to, I want to say, six hours of seat time over the weekend and it's also the, I would say, cheapest championship you can do over here. So it's £24,500, which is a lot cheaper to any other championship out there. So I think, if I start low over here, get myself back into it.
Speaker 2:Work my way up is probably how I would do it, but that's what I'm aiming for this month. I would aim my top goal. It's not as high as everyone else. They want to be. You know F1 touring cars. I'd probably go for minis again, but minis over here are very expensive. They're about 150,000 pounds to do with a team, so it's quite expensive. So I want to work my way up to that. I think.
Speaker 1:So when you say um 24,. Oh, I can get you a no, that's okay, I'll figure that out, but it sounds like a lot yeah, it's definitely a lot of money.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, but in comparison to other championships it's quite cheap. I just worked out it's about 32 and a US dollars. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Wow, 32,000. I'm writing that down, and so 150,000 pounds is yeah. It'll be quite a lot, yeah, quite a lot. But to a company who wants to sponsor, especially sponsor a woman, that's really that's in their budget, that's what they do yeah, 100, I think I wouldn't say it's getting easier for women to get sponsorships, but we're definitely more out there now.
Speaker 2:We've seen a lot more girls push their way into f3 um mini challenge over here, yeah again.
Speaker 1:In other countries in in europe particularly, you see a lot more women and girls in it, which is nice to see well, and it's, it's not the unusual anymore, but yeah, but it's still a small enough um demographic that it's enticing to companies. Because it's not just another guy no offense, guys, no offense. But it's not just another guy in a car with you know, 100 other guys in cars. It's a woman in a car with 10 other women.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:And so they do get a lot more attention because of that, because it is more of the unusual for sure. More attention because of that, because it is more of the unusual for sure.
Speaker 2:So what are?
Speaker 1:you, what are you looking forward to the most to get getting back on the racetrack?
Speaker 2:I know you said you love the speed in that, but the competition, the atmosphere of, you know, seeing everybody. I remember, in particular, we went to the Nürburgring. That was probably my favourite race weekend. It was crazy. I signed my first ever autograph there. That was insane. Yeah, I had to film the moment to send it to my mum because I was like mum, you'll never guess what's just happened. This is crazy. Yeah, the atmosphere in particular, I think, seeing everybody, getting advice from everybody, meeting loads and loads of different people um, I think I don't. I just like it all. It's. It's different. I I don't know if you've not been in a paddock, you don't know the feeling. It's completely different. The feeling that you get it's not like happy or joyous or sad, it's completely different. I don't know how to explain it you know, I don't really either.
Speaker 1:It's the roar of the engines, it's the smells of the gas and and it's. You know. It's even looking at a team and they're all dressed the same you know, it's not like yeah, yeah, it's. And and if you can't, if you can't get somebody to the rac race track, you can't explain it to them yeah, exactly we know that if we get someone to the track especially if you could get them into the paddock they're going to be they're going to be race fans for life oh, 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it happened very quickly for me. Yeah, it was. It was just that one day at the track and I was like this is it? Yeah, I like this is what I want to do now. It was. It just took that one day and that was it. When you know, you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. So tell me about the car. Like what, what kind of car is it? I, I'm not familiar. You're gonna have to teach me now, so what? Let's say that in 2026 you're going to be driving. Yeah, what's the car going to be like?
Speaker 2:so it almost I can't describe the look of it. So it's a single seater, but it doesn't look like an f1 car.
Speaker 2:It almost looks like a volkswagen beetle on steroids it's it's big, it's loud, it's got a 1.8 liter audi volkswagen engine in it, petrol, um, I think it was pushing just over 150 brake horsepower, so not the fastest thing in the world, um, but I've watched them live and it was probably the most exciting racing I've ever watched in my life. It was very close, not like Formula 1, where you get one person 20 seconds ahead and you get one person one minute behind. Everyone's together in a pack and they're wheel to wheel right up against each other. It looked really fun. I've got a friend who will be going there in 2026 as well, so we're kind of aiming to go into it together, um, but we'll have to see. Uh, I'm very hopeful, I'm manifesting it, very hopeful that we'll do it. It's promising.
Speaker 1:That's what you have to do. You know, I had a friend who came up with this quote and he he always said the story in your mind becomes the story of your life. Exactly at the time it was a completely different kind of company. It was a greeting card and gifting company, which I'm still a part of. It's called uh, it was called send out cards, now it's called Promptings. I'm still involved with it and he's so right. It's what you manifest in your mind. Yeah, and true, and so so true.
Speaker 2:I think if you want it enough, you'll do anything to go and get it, and then it will work. You've worked so hard to get it. It won't fail. So I'm hoping that the work I've done in the past year or so it leads me to another race season next year oh, I hope so too.
Speaker 1:So, um, when you first said, okay, I don't want to do this, I want to be a race car driver, what did your family say?
Speaker 2:um. So I didn't really tell them I was going. I just kind of went one day and then they rang and said where are you? I was like, oh, I'm in Sweden. They're like what are you doing there? I was like, oh, driving a race car.
Speaker 2:It kind of went from there and then I said to them I don't want to do this anymore, I want to do that. And they were like, oh, will you just make your mind up? I was like I don't know, because they're all really into football, they're very big football fans, and I was completely different, never understood it, don't understand it. Doesn't matter how many times they explain it to me, I don't get it. Yeah, but racing I was like I like that. So I just said I don't want to do it anymore. And then I switched to motorsport engineering. That was my chosen degree at the time but, like I said, I didn't really like it that much because I don't know as much as I admire race engineers and mine really did help me out when I was racing. Um, I don't, I'm not built for that. I don't think I can do it.
Speaker 1:The driving part. It's if you want to be behind the scenes with the car, or if you want to be the driver or a crew member, out in, out, really in it, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to be in the action. Right, I want to be there on the track.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's two completely different kind of not even it's you know, two completely different kind of character and and not character. But you know some people want to be behind the scenes and some people want to be out front and that it takes all of that to make it work. Yeah, and so it's good that you found out that you want to be the driver. I love that part, yeah, so you're doing a lot of things you know you found out that you want to be the driver.
Speaker 1:I love that part, yeah. So you're doing a lot of things. You know you're getting yourself closer. How do you take care of yourself? How do you find balance in your life between working at the track, which has to give you a lot of adrenaline, getting the proper sleep and all those things? You know, a lot of times, as women, we don't take care of ourselves as much as we take care of others. And so how does Kate take care of Kate?
Speaker 2:Unfortunately Kate didn't take care of Kate when she was raising. I, you know in my head, was doing very bad. I just when I went to Sweden Sweden, of course it was last minute I had no family that could come with me because, again, it was last minute they couldn't get the time off work. So I went to every race pretty much alone. So it was my first time traveling abroad without any family or friends. So that was a big step in itself.
Speaker 2:Um then, trying to figure out their public transport over there and I still struggle to figure out public transport in England. I've been here 21 years so that was difficult. And of course I'd never been to a race weekend. I jumped straight in it. I never did karting, I did the, I did track days, but that's different to a race weekend. Yeah, I'd never done it before.
Speaker 2:I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't even know how to get out the race car until three weekends in, because it just by chance, I just went. If this car set on fire, I went, how do I get out? And he was like the door handle. And I was like what door handle? So you can see how little I knew I was literally. I was like an apprentice, I was learning on the job. Basically I had no idea what I was doing and it really showed, I think. But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:But I spent a lot of the weekends crying because I didn't. I wasn't doing as well as I thought I would in my head and I feel like even more as a woman, you have higher expectations where men are kind of like, oh, that's okay, we'll just go bigger and better next time. But I was like, no, why am I not first? Why am I not winning? Yeah, so I did definitely struggle a lot, but I think now, definitely being a little bit older, knowing what to expect now and hopefully racing in the UK, I think I'll definitely have a bigger support network and even when I was racing abroad I built up those friendships. I have friends in Sweden, germany, denmark, the Netherlands. I have friends, I'm friends with people everywhere now, which is nice, and I get tips and advice from them.
Speaker 2:So I think if I went back into it next year, I would be a lot better like in myself. I would have a bigger, better support network. I have family that could actually come, friends that could come and I think again, working at everyman, even though we're mainly sat on the passenger side instructing, you know, you learn a lot, you learn a lot. My driving has definitely improved since working there because you're telling people the racing line, you know, and I could have gone to this track. There's some tracks where I've gone to. I've never even driven the track and I'm instructing people, so it's like you've you know. It's helped me a lot like visualize the racing lines and how to deal with different kind of cars, because I've done front wheel drives, four wheel drives, rear wheel drives, in the wet, in the snow, in the, in the dry, so it's definitely improved. So I think now I would definitely know how to look after myself at a race weekend. So hopefully you know.
Speaker 1:I love listening to you tell me how you've learned, because a lot of people would say that, oh, you have to have seat time, you have to be in the driver's seat, but that's not really true, because you're in the passenger seat with the person that's driving and you don't have the pressure of actually driving to where I think you can like, absorb and study and learn where the right line is. And, oh, you know, know when they do something wrong. You learn by what they've done right or wrong and it's a really interesting.
Speaker 2:it's almost like you've you're learning racing by watching, yeah, where most people start when they're little and they, you know, they learn the hard way really yeah, I mean, I think back when I was a kid in the uk, I think you it's a lot more difficult to get into racing, especially as a girl. Over here where I lived, there wasn't really any karting tracks around me that I knew of and I never knew it was a thing I wanted to do. So of course, I never had that seat time growing up. As much as I would love the seat time and I think that would be great, I think the next best thing that I can do is be in the passenger seat telling people what to do. So you know, we get, we get the every morning, we get to go for a warm-up lap. Um, there's occasionally you get to go around the track by yourself. So you get the seat time every now and then.
Speaker 2:But it's not. You're not going at race pace, you're not. You know you're not racing, you're instructing. It's a different kind of thing. But yeah, again, I kind of it's really weird how to explain it, but when I'm on a track, like I can kind of see the race line. So it's almost like when you're playing like a racing game and you've got the line on to help. That's kind of almost how I see the track now because I do it so often.
Speaker 2:It's almost like seven days a week. For example, tomorrow I'm going down to Exeter, which is a four and a half hour drive, which I don't think it's that long in the US because it's so massive that it takes ages to get anywhere, but for the UK I'm going from like the middle of the country to the very bottom of the country. Oh yeah, and I'm instructing there. So it you know I get to do it in cool cars. My all-time dream car is an Nissan GTR, and that's a car I'm getting a lot of time in at the minute. So you know I can't complain. No, I'm always happy about that. As a kid I never thought I'd be able to be in a Ferrari, let alone drive one, and now I can just take my pick of, you know, cars I want to go in.
Speaker 1:So it's nice, you know so it's kind of a dream job, isn't it really?
Speaker 2:it can be. Yeah, obviously, like any job, it's got its ups and downs. It's it can definitely be scary at times. I've got to say you get the person in thinks they're like michael schumacher and think they're the best driver ever, when in reality it's not. They've only ever done road driving and, as anyone who's driven on a track before knows, it's very different. Um, I've had people stop on track where there's been lines, thinking that we're at a junction, and I'm like, no, no, we've got to go, we cannot stop, keep going. But they're like there's cars. I'm like, no, they're not coming at us, go. So it can be very stressful at times.
Speaker 2:I've got to know where every other car is on track. I've got to anticipate what the customer's going to do. Um, I've got to anticipate what the customer behind or in front of me is going to do. I've had cars stopped dead in front of me and the customer's not really realized. Luckily, we have a brake pedal on our side for emergencies. Yeah, it's rare we have to use them, but you get the odd one that does really want to kill you. So, but again, you learn a lot from those kind of people, because it's like they will push the car beyond their limits and I've got to be able to control it from the passenger side. So if I can control it from the passenger side, I can control it from the driver's side. So it definitely helps driver's side. So it definitely helps a lot more, like if I was getting a car. Now I can see my driving has improved massively from 2023 to now.
Speaker 1:I'll bet. What's the scariest?
Speaker 2:thing that's happened. So I was at Bronze Hatch, I was in a BMW i8. And that car that car when the battery's fully charged it's a four wheel drive, when the battery's not charged, it's a rear wheel drive. And it just so happened we'd used up all our battery, so we were on a rear wheel drive, it was raining and the car didn't like going in a straight line even at 15 miles per hour. It was trying to kick the back end out and this customer did not want to use his brake pedal. It doesn't matter. You know, if I was, I was yelling at him at one point.
Speaker 2:Like you have to brake, because I know and I've seen at brand's hatch, when it goes wrong, it goes wrong. You don't just have a little spin, you roll the car 10 times and you're in a barrier like it's. It's not the place you want to have an accident at. It's not fun. I try to explain to the customer. You know I've crashed, I've been in a concrete wall. It hurts. I don't want to do it again and I promise you you don't want to do it either. Right, and he just would not break.
Speaker 2:And it got to the point where we were behind a Lamborghini Gallardo and we were getting very, very close and we have a very strict overtaking rule where it's done by indicators and it's done by the instructors, so it's always, always, safe. He completely ignored this, but it got to the point where his accelerator was overriding my brake. Oh, but the car, because it's got that many sensors, because it's quite a like a newish supercar. It was a 2018 um, the car literally stopped itself and I put the car in neutral and I said we cannot go any further.
Speaker 2:I said you are not listening to me any further. I said you are not listening to me and I don't like to shout at people. I'm not a horrible person, but this man was going to kill the both of us. Yeah, he would. Doesn't matter what I said to him, he would not listen. And that has got to be probably the scariest moment I've ever had, because I thought we're going to hit somebody, we're going to injure someone else, we're going to injure ourselves or we are going to completely wreck this car. That has done nothing to us. It's done. He's been nothing but nice to us, this car.
Speaker 1:So that was definitely the scariest moment I've had when you so you don't have a wheel, you don't have a wheel, you just have a break. Yeah, I would have put my hands around his neck it was difficult not to.
Speaker 1:I've got to say what you know, what it makes you wonder did he think he knew more because he had driven a race car before? Because you were a woman and he wasn't going to listen to a pretty young thing tell him how to drive all those things together? He should have never he that car needed to go back to the garage and he needed to get out because, yeah, that's taking advantage of a situation that you know he should not even be in control of. So that had to be just the worst. Yeah, I would guess that most of the time you have a lot of fun with those customers oh, 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did one at a military barracks couple weeks ago and every single customer I think I enjoyed it more than they did and they were really enjoying it. We're in a nissan gtr. It was modded so it was. I think it was running about 700 brake horsepower. It was very quick, it was nice. But yeah, like you said, I think a lot of the issue most of the time is I'm a woman. I had one last year and it just so happened to be national, uh, like international women's day, so it was quite a coincidence. And, um, I was introduced to the customer and he went oh, it's a woman. I thought I said to him, I said on International Women's Day as well.
Speaker 2:So for his session, I drove him around the track to show him the different braking points, accelerating points, your apexes, everything he needed to know where the track, where it went. Anyway, he got in this car. We were in a Ferrari F430 at this point. Everything he needed to know where the track, where it went. Anyway, he got in this car. We were in a Ferrari F430 at this point. So he got in the car and I was trying to tell him how to turn it on, because in a Ferrari. You twist the key and then you've got to hold down a button to turn the car on. He went I don't need you to tell me how to turn the car on.
Speaker 2:And when I tell you, we sat there for 25 minutes, this man trying to figure out how to turn this car on, and I just said to him I said if you look to the right there's a key, try, twist that. And of course it started up. And with our brake, with my brake pedal, I just so slightly kept it on. So the car was running a bit slower and he went oh, this is a bit slower than I expected. And I was like I said oh, people that can drive normally get this quite quick, and I've never seen a man's ego shatter so much and I thoroughly enjoyed it because it's just like you had. You had no reason to say that to me. You don't know my experience, you don't know what I can do in a car, so you have no reason to tell me that. So it's like you ruin my day and I'll ruin your day.
Speaker 1:I love your attitude. I absolutely love your attitude. You're gonna be fun and you're gonna help them as much as you can, but if they mess with you, okay I, I can mess back, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:I won't have it yeah. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:That is so fun, so fun. So next year you're going to be in a car. I just know you are. I'm going to manifest it with you, Thank you. What is the thing that will be the most you're? You're going to run in a cup series.
Speaker 1:It sounds like yeah you travel to all different tracks. You meet all different kinds of people. What is the one thing that you're going to take away from your life driving being part of motorsports that you would never have experienced had it not been for motorsports um, I think it would honestly, I would say the friendships, because, yeah, you can make friends anywhere, yeah, but you know it's rare.
Speaker 2:You make friends, you know, from different countries, you know that, although your competitors will also help you out, I think it's definitely that. I mean, I made a lot of friends in Sweden that I still speak to almost every day to this day and it's like, yes, we were against each other on the track, but off track there was no hard feelings, even if we had a bump, you know, and we set each other behind a little bit. You know there was no bad blood between it. Like you know, football, for example, they'll get off the pitch and they'll have a fight Over here. You just shake hands, have a hug and just be like really sorry, it happens, you know. I think it happens, you know, I think it's that. I think you'll take that away the, the, the kindness, the niceness to people that you don't really get anywhere else.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, absolutely for sure, and that's something that throughout life, nobody can take away from you. Exactly, yeah, okay, you've Exactly, yeah, okay, you've been a joy. So, just so the people listening understand so I live in Michigan and we started this around 11 o'clock in the morning, my time, and that was four o'clock in the afternoon, your time, yeah, and. And so this just goes to show that no matter where we live or what time zone we're in, that we can talk about motorsports and be sisters in motorsports, even though you could be my granddaughter that's how old you are and it's something that now we've met. We probably won't ever meet in person I doubt if I come to the UK, but I feel like I've met you and I feel like we have a new friendship, and that's why I do this is to tell you if you ever come to the UK yeah, if you ever come to the UK, we'll make sure we meet, because in my eyes we're best friends now.
Speaker 1:So yeah, absolutely okay. I'm so glad that we could talk today, so now I want you to keep manifesting, keep working hard, keep showing those men that you know what you're talking about. I bet the women don't give you any crap, do they?
Speaker 2:Not one of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, yeah. That's just how life is especially in other sports and we accept it and we love the men. We really do. But they have to understand that sometimes we know as much as they do. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, thank you for being on with me this has really been a joy to talk with you and tell your story, and I want you to promise that you'll stay in touch and let me know when everything goes well and when you start racing, and hopefully there'll be somewhere that I can watch it.
Speaker 1:like you know, I watch so much streaming now because I connect with women all over the united states and in the past I would have never maybe got to watch them race because I can't go everywhere. But now, with with all the streaming services, I can keep track and watch and say, oh, you know, peyton's racing here or whatever, and it makes it so nice. I feel like I really get to actually watch them race too. So hopefully at one point that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'll send you a link when I'm racing next year. Absolutely Maybe a ticket, who knows? There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1:That would be absolutely amazing, for sure. Well, kate, thanks for being with me today, and I just want to give you all the luck in the world and appreciate that you took the time, and if you'll just hang on after I stop the recording, we'll just finish up some details.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's fine. Thank you for having me, it's been fun.
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